Posts Tagged ‘legitimate refugees’

This image was chosen to put into context claims about Australian public transport being overcrowded (a point made during the episode) rather than to feed into the racist narrative that predominantly blames poorer countries for environmental problems. Image from http://www.shareyouressays.com

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On this one we take on the controversial issue of population, with the help of town planner and environmental activist Mark Allen. We discuss population on both a global and national scale, in light of Australia’s population recently reaching 24 million people. This includes addressing some feedback we got (see the comments on this post) on episodes 115 and 116, which focused on progressive parenting. The episode is a continuation from our discussion with Mark from our previous episode, #127, which focused on addressing urban sprawl.

Mark has written about these issues in his article ‘Why The Greens’ Plan For A Liveable Melbourne Will Not Save Melbourne’ and in the zine he has co-written ‘Why We Need to Talk about Population’ – available at New Internationalist bookshop in Melbourne. Mark has also set up the Facebook groups Population, Permaculture and Planning and Sustainable Cruelty-Free Communities.

If you’d like to hear other episodes where we have covered population, we spoke about the issue at the end of episodes 15 and 44. It would also be worth checking out episode 10, where we challenged the notion of “legitimate” refugees/migrants, which came up in this episode.

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Clips:

Morrissey ‘End of the Line’, Bad ReligionAgainst the Grain’, The Jam ‘Thick as Thieves’.

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On this one Nick is joined by Dan (@verydangry) from Anarchist Affinity for the entire episode. We discuss a range of issues, including: the police, our visit to Villawood Refugee Detention Centre with Dan (you can read Nick’s article about this, published on the ABC here), austerity in Europe and Australia, apparently we’re all middle class in Australia (despite the evidence!), how the post-World War Two “glory years” weren’t glorious for everyone, “white labourism” compared to the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), the Aboriginal Tent Embassy at The Block in Redfern, Obama’s new policy to get around child trafficking laws, basic income, challenging ideas about “good” and “bad” asylum seekers, and activism for refugees.

Dan recommends people check out David Graeber’s articles ‘Are You An Anarchist? The Answer May Surprise You!’ and ‘On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs’, Selma James’s book ‘Sex, Race and Class’, Melbourne Anarchist Bookfair, Black Swan, the Melbourne Street Medic Collective, and Novara Media podcast.

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Clips:

Michael Parenti speaking on Choking Victim ‘Money’, Mischief BrewThanks Bastards’, Dead Prez ‘Police State’ featuring Chairman Omali Yeshitela, Propagandhi ‘Fuck the Border’.

You can listen to a short (6 minute) version of this episode, where we argue for an internationalist approach to unionism that advocates for ALL workers – rather than a nationalistic focus of “local jobs first”, here: Workers of the World Unite vs White Labourism. You can subscribe to these short versions of our episodes through Omny.

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We start off the episode by talking about our recent travels and our animal rights protest in Geneva, anarchism in Barcelona, and a discussion on China – including Internet censorship, Tiananmen Square and recent protests. Katie also provides a critical perspective on the definition of ‘refugee’, based on her study in Geneva. Finally, we discuss true globalisation and the free movement of people around the world (not just for “legitimate” refugees).

Book Recommendation:

Occupy Everything: Anarchists and the Occupy Movement 2009-2011 edited by Aragorn!

Clips:

Gogol BordelloWonderlust King’, Lagwagon from the album ‘Live in a Dive’, Austin Powers, PropagandhiFuck the Border’.

*This quote that forms the title of this episode is taken from the Breakout Conference by the Cross Border Collective, which we discuss on this episode.