Politicians discussing climate change. Sculpture by Issac Cordal.

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Nick is joined by town planner and environmental activist Mark Allen. We discuss two forms of climate change denial – both denying climate change is happening and/or is caused by human activity but also denying the action and changes that are required to seriously address the climate emergency. To discuss this, we draw on the article ‘Climate Change: Almost Half Of Australia Is Still Ignorant Or Confused, New Poll Reveals’ by Thom Mitchell and the documentary This Changes Everything by Naomi Klein and Avi Lewis.

We discuss government “action” on the Great Barrier Reef, the problems with “green” capitalism, statistics on the impact of the carbon tax (we also covered the carbon tax on episodes 5 and 63), climate activism and hopepreferential voting in Australia and voting for the environment in the upcoming election.

Plugs for Mark: City Limits on 3CR, Population, Planning and Permaculture Facebook group and Mark’s article on the Brexit.

If you are interested in hearing more on the issues discussed on this episode, check out our recording of the Left Q/A – Election 2016 event, featuring speakers from Save the Planet, the Socialist Alliance and the Greens – part 1, part 2. We also discuss this event and play some highlights from it on episode 138.

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You can listen to a short (7 minute) version of this episode, which features a shortened version of Nick and Mark’s discussion on voting for the environment in the upcoming election, below. You can subscribe to these short versions of our episodes through Omny.

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